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Voting for Ralph Nader?
Is anyone planning on or thinking about voting for Nader? I can’t say the idea hasn’t floated in my head.
I’m a registered Democrat and I voted for Obama in the primaries but I don’t know–I’m just not enthusiastic about him anymore. I can’t say that there aren’t any differences between him and McCain but I just don’t know how different he is from other Democrats and frankly, I don’t find the Democrats all too appealing anymore. Yet I feel I would be wasting my vote to vote for Nader. I dunno. What do you all think?
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Poverty in America
A thread to discuss Poverty in America…why we do we have poverty if we are the wealthiest nation in the world? (Or are we not really that wealthy…)How do you define poverty in a developed nation (vs. a third world nation)? What attitudes are prevalent in our nation toward those who are poor? What do we do for the poor? What do you think about our welfare system and welfare reform that targeted the poor? How much of poverty is a symptom of the economic sytem and how much is the fault of the one who is poor? What about generational poverty? What about faith based initiatives to aid the poor? What does your individual belief system teach you about the poor? Do you have any ideas about how to truly help the poor besides simply giving money? Are they all just lazy, stupid or drug addicted?
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The Wahhabisation of Pakistan
Extremist ideology, as we have learned in the last 8 years, is just as prone to attract highly-educated members of the professional class as unemployed, frustrated youth. We have to delve deeper into Pakistan’s recent past if we are to understand the crisis it faces at the present. Sub-continental history is dotted with intermittent mass movement of people – usually triggered by famine, war or worse – replete with attendant tales of distress and misery. In my reckoning, the early 1970s saw the another key migration that has so far received little analysis. It involved vast numbers of men from the rural and semi-urban parts of Pakistan moving to the emerging oil-based oligarchies in the Gulf.
Just as significant was the religiosity that came back with the workers. Historically speaking, the Wahhabi reading of Islam had found little purchase on the subcontinent. Mainly because Wahhabi ideology is at odds with practices in Pakistani culture, which cherished its sufi saints. However, this migration allowed a vast population to unlearn their “decadent” and “deviant” practices from the “pure practitioners” in Saudi Arabia, Qatar or the Emirates.
In the southern valleys and northern mountains dupattas were replaced with burkas and sufi shrines with madrasas. This cultural turn dovetailed with Zia ul-Haq’s policies of Sunnification and the selling of jihad as a necessary commodity to the Pakistani people.
Palestine, Chechnya and Kashmir became the de-facto topics at every Friday sermon from Doha and Riyadh to Dera Ghazi Khan and Rawalpindi. However, this Wahhabisation, which included a stricter, more literal interpretation of Qur’an, the demonisation of non-believers, antisemitic rhetoric, racism, the desire to “fund” jihads and so on, was never a straightforward process of important. Its progress was gradual and organic in a way that slowly de-legitimised established practices while distorting others: the spiritual guide was transformed into one who cast, or fought, black magic.
It is hard to find a household, a conversation, in current day Pakistan that is free of such concerns. The practitioners combine the zeal of the Wahhabi imam with the bank-teller’s command of charges due: $10 for the destruction of a marriage, $20 for an incantation for a ruined libido. All wrapped in literal reading of Qur’anic text.
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Status of Dhimmi in Islam
414. When the Prophet Mohammed settled down in Medina, he found there complete anarchy, the region having never known before either a State or a king to unite the tribes torn by internecine feuds. In just a few weeks, he succeeded in rallying all the inhabitants of the region into order. He constituted a city state, in which Muslims, Jews, pagan Arabs and also probably a small number of Christians, all entered into a statal organism by means of a social contract.
415. The constitutional law of this first ‘Muslim’ State – which was the confederacy as a sequence of the multiplicity of the population groups – has come down to us in toto, and we read therein not only in clause 25: “to Muslims their religion, and to Jews their religion,” or, “that there would be benevolence and justice,” but even the unexpected passage in the same clause 25: “the Jews . . . are a community (in alliance) with – according Ibn Hisham and in the version of Abu-’Ubaid, a community (forming part) of - the believers (i.e., Muslims).”
416. The very fact that, at the time of the constitution of this city-state, the autonomous Jewish villages acceded of their free will to the confederal State, and recognized Muhammad as their supreme political head, implies in our opinion that the non-Muslim subjects possessed the right of votes in the election of the head of the Muslim State, at least in so far as the political life of the country was concerned.
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Sexual Relationships
As you know, Islam strictly regulates sexual relationships and channels them into the insitution of marriage only. According to Islam, a vow of celebacy and promiscuity are both forbidden. A healthy sexual relationship between husband and wife are sanctioned and strongly encouraged.
In Islam we are not to discuss our private relationships with other people. It is strictly between husband and wife. However, we can discuss what makes a healthy relationship between husband and wife on an independent level as long as it is with the intent on educating and encouraging healthy relationships and not intended to be lude.
Also, many westerners(or non-muslims) seem to think that Muslims are sexually repressed and only are concerned with the husbands self gratification. This is could not be further from the truth.
The fact is that Muslims are human beings with needs, male and female. However, we channel our desires, our into our marital relationships.
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